Coyote Con

[Deena] 8:06 pm: I suppose we should get started. I don’t have a lot to say, other than thank you all for making coyotecon a success. It wouldn’t have worked without you. So now it’s your turn to talk.

[Frances] 8:06 pm: Hi everyone!

[Rae] 8:07 pm: LOL

[Deena] 8:07 pm: If you haven’t filled out the feedback survey, will you do it soon? The answer spaces are shorter than I thought they’d be, so if you’re very long-winded it will cut you off, but it will at least give us an idea of what went well [or didn't].

[riversway] 8:07 pm: Good start Frances!

[PeachesNCream] 8:07 pm: You held it all together beautifully Deena!!

[Kris M] 8:07 pm: Deena — no it wouldn’t have worked WITHOUT YOU!!!:awe: I was really impressed with the whole conference. It went smoothly (mostly) and we had some great panels..

[Marva] 8:07 pm: I’d like to thank Drollerie and all the panelists. I’ve learned a lot and wish I could have come to more panels. There are the transcripts, though.

[spot_writes] 8:07 pm: It’s been great. I’d like to thank all the published authors, they’ve all been very down to earth, and friendly, and helpful.

[widdershins] 8:07 pm: oh no! I long-winded myself out of existence!

[LynneB] 8:07 pm: Extremely well organized which made it such a pleasure!

[Rae] 8:07 pm: This was so awesome, Deena! Very invaluable and informative.

[Deena] 8:07 pm: I’m glad you guys have had a great time.

[barblucas] 8:08 pm: Deena, I agree with folks. Everything ran so smoothly, much was learned, and it was great fun.

[Deena] 8:08 pm: This is the link to the feedback survey if you haven’t done it yet: http://coyotecon.com/general/your-feedback/

[zan] 8:08 pm: I have gone to a couple of live cons and one online con before this and I have to say this was one of the best I have been to. Maybe because you all write what I love to read and write.

[PeachesNCream] 8:08 pm: My hubby is ready for it to be over but I’m not

[Anna Kashina ] 8:08 pm: Deena, I lost connection for a moment, but I wanted to join the others in saying how great you were!

[spot_writes] 8:08 pm: haha peaches, my hubby agrees.

[Deena] 8:08 pm: My kids are soooo ready for it to be over.

[riversway] 8:08 pm: I agree with kris , I was really impressed with the panelists, I thought you all did a wonderful job…saying ‘wonderfule panel, great panel’ never seemd enough

[Kris M] 8:08 pm: @Peaches — mine too:D

[Deena] 8:08 pm: Thanks, Anna!

[Marva] 8:08 pm: I hustled my BBQ guest away so I could make this last session.

[Anna Kashina] 8:09 pm: This was the coolest idea, and it worked so well, all thanks to you!

[widdershins] 8:09 pm: meh… kids… what do they know!

[spot_writes] 8:09 pm: oh Marva, that’s funny

Deena] 8:09 pm: Oh, Marva, that was sweet. Well, I think so. Your guest might not.

kris M] 8:09 pm: I’ve been milking it all month – he was like — its not on tomorrow too is it??? I almost said yes just to torture hm

Marva] 8:09 pm:

Rae] 8:09 pm: I agree with Zan. I love that the focus was spec fiction and cultural diversity in fiction. I think I may be going through con withdrawals in the next weekend or so lol

widdershins] 8:09 pm: @kris…. you go girl!

Frances2] 8:09 pm: I think the con was well organized, planned and executed, but the people involved made it above and beyond wonderful.

PeachesNCream] 8:09 pm: LOL @ Kris…me too

Marva] 8:09 pm: Meant guestS.

LynneB] 8:09 pm: The presenters were all very well informed and kept to their topics with practical information. It was all much more valuable than I could have anticipated

Deena] 8:09 pm: We’re going to start a writing group, there’ll be an email going out later in the week to describe it and let you guys know what we’ll be doing.

Anna Kashina] 8:10 pm: Yes, I was thinking about the withdrawal… Can we do it every weekend?:)

Deena] 8:10 pm: Guests… lol, Marva.

Deena] 8:10 pm: Anna, if I had the stamina…

spot_writes] 8:10 pm: How about one weekend a month? One weekend every two months?

Anna Kashina] 8:10 pm: Deena, I can only imagine…

barblucas] 8:10 pm: I agree. I’m not sure what I’ll do with June weekends. Well, actually, I do. I need to finish a novel.

Marva] 8:10 pm: That rhymes.

Rae] 8:10 pm: Ooh! That would be awesome. I love that idea! Is it going to be sent out to the email addies we have signed up here, or is there a separate mailing list??

Deena] 8:11 pm: We’ll be doing something one weekend a month.

Deena] 8:11 pm: Rae, to the email address you signed up with here.

riversway] 8:11 pm: if I didn’t have the Evil 9-5 jobs

spot_writes] 8:11 pm: Sweet!

barblucas] 8:11 pm: Nice!

Rae] 8:11 pm: Okay cool

zan] 8:11 pm: :clap:yah

Amber Stults] 8:11 pm: I thought it was nice to have all of the events spread out over the month. I didn’t have to hide away from my family all week to get things done to participate in the chats.

kris M ] 8:11 pm: I know.. I learned a lot about different genres which was probably what I liked best — the exposure to things I haven’t read or even heard of before…. my hubby thought ‘transformative sex’ was sex with transformers – like the movie LOL

spot_writes] 8:11 pm: I think, other than the being really informative, it also helped me to focus and take myself more seriously.

Deena] 8:11 pm: I’m thinking one session to catch up with each other and learn something new would be good.

Deena] 8:11 pm: oh, good, Spot!

PeachesNCream] 8:12 pm: Same here Amber!

Rae] 8:12 pm: LOL Kris

Deena] 8:12 pm: oh, goodness, Kris! That would be… um… difficult.

widdershins] 8:12 pm: @Kris…. you REALLY need to punish him for that!

Amber Stults] 8:12 pm: I agree, Spot.

spot_writes] 8:12 pm: @Kris, that’s too funny. My hubby asked “exactly what kind of convention is this??

barblucas] 8:12 pm: @ Kris I’ve read some of those stories online.

PeachesNCream] 8:13 pm: LOL Kris…mine was reading over my shoulder earlier during the erotic one

kris M ] 8:13 pm: I already did this week – we had our 15th anniversary onthe 20th and my wedding band mysteriously lost a diamond chip — one of the cats probably ate it — it’s at the jewelers so I’m single all week!!!! yahoo

riversway] 8:13 pm: it’s given me a jump start again…greatly appreciated…I get kinda bitchy doing the earthy 9-5 thing without the creativity , burns you out that life

Deena] 8:13 pm: I was surprised at how much it helped me. It was so good for me to get to meet all of you, and to learn some things in the sessions, and to have a “good excuse” to write instead of just editing.

Deena] 8:13 pm: Peaches! Not during the weeping woman cave, I hope!

Deena] 8:14 pm: rivers, yes, being “normal” 9-5 is a drain.

Anna Kashina] 8:14 pm: Hi, everyone, sorry, I keep having connection problems today.

Rae] 8:14 pm: Hear hear. I really need to get back to finishing up some works in progress! I’ve been off my game a bit lately. This con helped me get more ideas and a focus together.

Deena] 8:14 pm: Anna, I’m sorry you’re having connection problems.

PeachesNCream] 8:14 pm: LOL no….but he saw all that Gregar stuff

spot_writes] 8:14 pm: I would think that it probably will net you a bunch more submissions too, Deena. Whether that’s good or bad though, I can’t say…

Deena] 8:14 pm: oh! hee

barblucas] 8:15 pm: That’s the mark of a good con: when you come out of it feeling recharged and ready to hit the keyboard and create.

Deena] 8:15 pm: Spot, that’s a good thing. We’ll have a new submissions process soon, so hopefully it will be painless for everyone.

[Marva] 8:15 pm: I’m envisioning a doorway with a bunch of writers shoving mss at Deena screaming ME ME
ME!
[kris M] 8:15 pm: I hope all of us from the conference — automatically make it OUT OF THE SLUSH PILE at DP when we submit — just kidding…

[widdershins] 8:15 pm: I’m not the same writer I was before this month

[kris M] 8:15 pm: @widder — ditto

[riversway] 8:15 pm: me neither

[spot_writes] 8:15 pm: Well, it should have helped to get DP’s name out. I know alot of us blasted it about on twitter & facebook.

[Rae ] 8:15 pm: Ooh yay!

[spot_writes] 8:16 pm: @widder, me neither!

[zan] 8:16 pm: I heard about it on Realm of Fantasy

[Deena] 8:16 pm: Spot, I was just thinking about that today. A very nice side benefit. It wasn’t intended, but it did make me feel encouraged.

[kris M] 8:16 pm: when I came I was a solid contemp romance — now I’m thinking about fairies and monsters and stuff…

[Rae ] 8:16 pm: Deena, you’ll definitely be hearing from me in the near future! Lol It would be awesome to be a DP author.

[Amber Stults] 8:16 pm: I’m sure the places that particpated in the pitch sessions will be busy too.

[Deena] 8:16 pm: Weren’t they great? All of those editors were so kind and down to earth. It was wonderful to meet them.

[Rae ] 8:17 pm: Can’t get too many faires

[Rae ] 8:17 pm: OOps! *fairies rather lol

[spot_writes] 8:17 pm: I didn’t make a single pitch session…

[Deena] 8:17 pm: That’s okay spot, I want you all to myself.

[zan] 8:17 pm: I had a good time at the two I went to and yes they were down to earth and approachable

[kris M] 8:17 pm: it’s nice to settle down and remember that ‘everyone’ is really just normal people — no matter how ‘famous’ or ‘published’ they are — we’re all just common folk…

[spot_writes] 8:17 pm: Thanks Deena!

[Deena] 8:17 pm: Oh, and Greg asked if you could tell him more about what you like on his website–it’s not an ego stroking thing at all, nooo, he just wants to know what he can do better.

[widdershins] 8:18 pm: @Kris… and we don’t battle our inner dragons alone anymore

[spot_writes] 8:18 pm: Sure Deena, I’d be happy too.

[Deena] 8:18 pm: Which I should probably plug. He calls it “with intent to commit horror”

[Amber Stults] 8:18 pm: I didn’t think I had anything ready for any of the editors in the pitch sessions but I thought it was nice they were able to get out and meet people on on one.

[Deena] 8:18 pm: and it’s at http://theundeadrat.com

[Deena] 8:18 pm: So, when/if you guys write horror and get it published, he’ll talk about you there!

[kris M] 8:19 pm: oh yeah — i’m still working on that yahoo group that we talked about in ‘creating while disabled’ — so expect emails…

[spot_writes] 8:19 pm: And it’s a really great newsletter, he lets you know what’s nominated for what award, what wins and does reviews

[Deena] 8:19 pm: Oh, good, thanks Kris!

[spot_writes] 8:19 pm: oh kris, I want in on that, I have fibro and I just found out I’m severely vitamin d deficient

[Deena] 8:19 pm: Once you get it set up, let me know and I’ll add it to the email going out to everyone.

[Deena] 8:20 pm: Spot! They’ve begun discovering a lot of fibro patients with that problem. Once you get the deficiency under control, the pain will be much less severe. I was too, and man it made a huge difference.

[kris M] 8:20 pm: ok Deena — it will be open to any physical and/or mental disabled — then again all authors are slightly mentally disabled right!!!

[spot_writes] 8:20 pm: Great, I start the monster doses tomorrow

[Deena] 8:20 pm: I do think they might be, kris!

[LynneB] 8:20 pm: Deena will there be a regular e-mail like monthly on catch up news, etc.?

[Deena] 8:20 pm: Be sure to get your calcium, and if you can’t take the pills, eat Tums.

[spot_writes] 8:21 pm: I told my son all artists are crazy, and we writers are the worst of the lot…

[Deena] 8:21 pm: For those who sign up, yes, Lynne. The first email will be to give you the option and will go out to everyone.

[Anna Kashina] 8:21 pm: OK, my connection seems to be fixed, but I am behind on the discussion, sorry.

[spot_writes] 8:21 pm: My daughter says calcium pills are awful

[Amber Stults] 8:21 pm: Has there been any thoughts towards a Coyote Con in 2011?

[Deena] 8:21 pm: That’s okay, Anna. I’m glad you’re steady on your electronic pins now.

[widdershins] 8:21 pm: @Anna… its a free-for-all… Tums were mentioned a moment ago!

[Deena] 8:21 pm: Amber, oh yes, we’ll definitely be having one next year.

[Anna Kashina] 8:21 pm: For the earlier topic, I wanted to say that pitch sessions were great and some people from my workshop were thrilled about a chance to pitch to Deena.

[Deena] 8:22 pm: spot, calcium pills are truly horrendous. My pharmacist told me to just take tums.

[Deena] 8:22 pm: Great, Anna!

[kris M] 8:22 pm: one of my fav quotes is ‘writing is the act of frustrating oneself with incessant typing in the hopes of somebody actually reading it some day’ LOL

[spot_writes] 8:22 pm: I will try that then. Thanks Deena!

[Deena] 8:22 pm: hee. Cool quote, Kris.

[spot_writes] 8:22 pm: haha Kris!

[zan] 8:22 pm: Kris who said that?

[Deena] 8:22 pm: Let me know how it goes, Spot. The pain in my legs is pretty much gone since I got the vitamin D under control.

[kris M] 8:23 pm: I’m not sure – I’d have to look it up.. I have a bunch of quotes like that which I collect

[spot_writes] 8:23 pm: Oh I will for sure!

[Deena] 8:23 pm: In a few days, I’ll be putting up some stuff about next year, ideas for sessions and so on, and give you guys room to weigh in.

[riversway] 8:23 pm: my favourite is ‘Perfection is a flawed concept’ helps keep it real

[kris M] 8:23 pm: another one is ‘write from your heart, write from your soul, make the best of your talent, and don’t ever let it go, not for anything’ — again don’t know who said it..

[Deena] 8:24 pm: May 1, 2011 is on a Sunday, and we’ll have an intro session that day, and I think we’ll skip memorial day weekend next year.

[spot_writes] 8:24 pm: I love “patience is a virtue” of course I always add “one I don’t posess”.

[Frances2] 8:24 pm: My fave is Dorothy Parker’s “I hate writing, I love having written.”

[Rae ] 8:24 pm: I like that one

[spot_writes] 8:24 pm: That’s a good one Frances.

[kris M] 8:24 pm: I tell my hubby that and he says ‘he’s not virtuous’!!!

[Deena] 8:24 pm: So next year it will be a 21 day conference.

[Rae ] 8:24 pm: These are some good writing quotes!

[zan] 8:24 pm: But I love the writing it is the rewriting I hate

[Anna Kashina] 8:25 pm: I think next year we’ll be more proficient and may not need an extra moderator in addition to the panelists.

[Deena] 8:25 pm: I hate rewriting too, Zan.

[LynneB] 8:25 pm: Yahoo!!! Can’t wait!

[Marva] 8:25 pm: @zan Hear Hear!

[Deena] 8:25 pm: Anna, that’s good, but we’ll also probably have more volunteers.

[barblucas] 8:25 pm: @ Frances I love that one too.

[spot_writes] 8:25 pm: I hate right before I start writing, I get like stage fright, only for writers. Once I get started I’m fine.

[riversway] 8:25 pm: @spot – I used to think that…. ..but then I realized I just moving faster and multi task more than most people…so doesn’t make me impatience…I’m just a few steps ahead of the rest

[Anna Kashina] 8:25 pm: This should reduce some load on you, Deena. I know that by the end of it I was pretty comfortable moderating my own session.

[kris M] 8:25 pm: so can we sign up now for those ‘special session’ tickets yet???

[Deena] 8:25 pm: I can so easily find 100 other things I ought to be doing than writing.

[zan] 8:25 pm: I took a class on writing it once but for some reason it didn’t stick sigh

[Deena] 8:25 pm: Thanks, Anna. That’s good to hear.

[Deena] 8:26 pm: Hee, Kris!

[Rae ] 8:26 pm: I once heard an author say that if you’re a planner, you hate rewriting but love writing but if you’re a pantser, you hate writing but love rewriting. I wonder if that’s true across the board. Hmm

[widdershins] 8:26 pm: Another gem from Dorothy Parker….”All I need is room enough to lay a hat and a few friends”

[Deena] 8:26 pm: I’m not sure what we’ll do about special sessions next year, though I hope we’ll have audio/video down then.

[Rae ] 8:26 pm: Ooh!

[Deena] 8:26 pm: I’m a pantser, Rae, so I think that’s backwards.

[Anna Kashina] 8:27 pm: But yes, next year we’ll definitely have more volunteers. I hope the chat can still hold everyone.

[Jazzyartwriter2] 8:27 pm: Not true in my case about rewriting. I’m a pantzer and I hate rewriting.

[spot_writes] 8:27 pm: Would it be possible to have some sessions in the morning next year. iI really am the most alert then. And I know for those like Tina, in Ireland, the timing would be better.

[Amber Stults] 8:27 pm: That sounds like me, Rae. Funny thing.. I’m a planner except when I write. I’m a
planner/pantser hybrid.

[Deena] 8:27 pm: Well, next year we’ll also, hopefully, have better chat software.

[kris M] 8:27 pm: is there a limit on the chat size???

[Rae ] 8:27 pm: Maybe it’d be switched? Although I’m a pantser and love rewriting. I guess it’s based on the individual then. Lol
[Anna Kashina] 8:27 pm: Sorry, I am always behind because I have to restart my modem every few minutes. I am using wireless for the first time.

[Deena] 8:27 pm: Spot, yes, we will. It’ll be better for other parts of the world.

[Marva] 8:27 pm: Planner here so I hate rewriting. Once should be enough, right?

[Deena] 8:28 pm: Anna, the wireless is making you restart every few minutes?

[spot_writes] 8:28 pm: wait! What’s a pantser??

[kris M] 8:28 pm: yeah earlier is good idea — always on my 2nd pot of coffee by the 11 pm classes…

[Deena] 8:28 pm: Kris, yes, there’s a limit, but we never reached it. I have a feeling it might have not been reached because it started kicking people out before it got close.

[Rae ] 8:28 pm: You write “by the seat of your pants”. You don’t plan an outline beforehand. Just dive on in

[Anna Kashina] 8:28 pm: Deena, it is some local glitch. I may need to restart my computer or something, but then I’ll miss too much.

[spot_writes] 8:28 pm: Ah. I usually make a plan, then totally disregard it. So I guess I’m a hybrid.

[Anna Kashina] 8:28 pm: Just don’t mind me popping in and out.

[Rae ] 8:28 pm: Ooh a rare breed?

[zan] 8:28 pm: I am definaltely a pantser

[Deena] 8:29 pm: I’m trying to learn to use notecards. I need to be able to plot better.

[widdershins] 8:29 pm: I believe in the diagonal theory of writing… one step forwards and one sideways

[Deena] 8:29 pm: No worries, Anna.

[spot_writes] 8:29 pm: @Rae, that’s me. I’m a planner pants.

[Rae ] 8:29 pm: Lol

[Marva] 8:29 pm: One step forward, two steps back.

[riversway] 8:29 pm: well I’m both a pantzer and planner, I dive in to the deep end then usuallly have to plan to make it work …

[widdershins] 8:29 pm: round and round… dosey doe

[Rae ] 8:29 pm: Sounds about right!

[Rae ] 8:29 pm: Spot, I like that. Planner pants hehe

[PeachesNCream] 8:29 pm: I’m both…different stories call for different methods

[Deena] 8:29 pm: that sounds like a planner pants to me, River.

[Frances2] 8:30 pm: Im a pantser, but writing the last book in a trilogy has forced me to try the other side for a stint.

[zan] 8:30 pm: Even if I did the charactors would revolte oh yeah they do anyway. Most of my stories end up with a sneaky charactor who just jumps in on me.

[Jazzyartwriter2] 8:30 pm: I do an outline of sorts for a few chapters after I’ve done several chapters, but don’t always follow it. I don’t know what that makes me.

[Amber Stults] 8:30 pm: I start off with an outline or bullet points and then go off in whatever direction feels right.

[Deena] 8:30 pm: I think, Jazzy, it makes you unique… like the rest of us.

[Rae ] 8:30 pm: Don’t you love that, Zan? They just want to take over the story and lead away. Psh. Who do those characters think they are? Lol

[spot_writes] 8:30 pm: @zan, that totally happened to me last night. Now I’m left with a story I love but no idea where to market it.

[Jazzyartwriter2] 8:30 pm: Sometimes a character will refuse to do what I ask. I’ve also had ‘walk-on’ characters that never left.

[barblucas] 8:30 pm: I usually start with a scene, and just let things unfold from there.

[riversway] 8:30 pm: writer’s are Wierd! I’m proud to one of you

[widdershins] 8:31 pm: forget about the pants… go commando!

[Anna Kashina] 8:31 pm: I usually write 100 pages or so, then go back and write an outline. If I write one beforehand (which happens) it almost never holds to the 100 pages.

[spot_writes] 8:31 pm: It was supposed to be a dark horror piece and it ended up being a humorous horror.

[barblucas] 8:31 pm: @widder LOL!

[Deena] 8:31 pm: (Spot, you might like this place I’ve heard of called DP. They have a great humorous horror novel already)

[LynneB] 8:31 pm: So which one of you will be leading the session on how to plan your story for next year’s con?

[Rae ] 8:31 pm: Hehe

[Jazzyartwriter2] 8:31 pm: Humorous horror? What is the name? I’d like to read it.

[zan] 8:32 pm: Thats Ok I wrote what I thought was a dragon love story and my husband says it is a vindictive revenge story go figure

[kris M] 8:32 pm: ditto jazzy

[spot_writes] 8:32 pm: @Deena…hehe. It’s only a short story. Does that work for DP?

[PeachesNCream] 8:32 pm: I vote for Kait Nolan…she changed herself from a pantser to plotter

[Deena] 8:32 pm: Jazzy, The Revenant Road by Michael Boatman. If you’re put off by excess profanity, you won’t like it, but otherwise, it’s great.

[spot_writes] 8:32 pm: It’s called “The Nightmare Guardian”. I sent it to Tina, my beta reader and she loved it.

[Deena] 8:32 pm: Spot, actually, yes. We’ve always accepted short stories, but we’re going to start pushing them harder to take advantage of people reading on the fly. We’re going to open a new bookstore just for short works soon.

[spot_writes] 8:33 pm: @zan, that’s funny!

[Deena] 8:33 pm: ooh, thanks Peaches. I’ll remember that.

[Frances2] 8:33 pm: reprints yay or nay @ Deena?

[Marva] 8:33 pm: Ah, a place to send my shorts. Um, stories that is.

[Jazzyartwriter2] 8:33 pm: What about 10,000 word shapeshifter novellas?

[Deena] 8:33 pm: Frances, it depends on the story.

[Deena] 8:33 pm: Jazzy, yes. We take those.

[widdershins] 8:33 pm: @MArva LOL

[spot_writes] 8:33 pm: I think I love you Deena. I love writing shorts.

[Rae ] 8:33 pm: Deena, DP is strictly spec fic, correct?

[Deena] 8:34 pm: We take 5k and up.

[Jazzyartwriter2] 8:34 pm: Good, I’ll start rewriting and polishing them. I’ve got 5.

[Deena] 8:34 pm: Rae, yes. It doesn’t have to be hugely overt, but there has to be something extra-normal about it.

[Rae ] 8:34 pm: Okie dokie.

[Deena] 8:34 pm: You don’t write spec fic do you Rae?

[Deena] 8:35 pm: Man, there are times I wish I could publish everything.

[Jazzyartwriter2] 8:35 pm: Does anybody here work on more than one WIP at a time and in different genres?

[Rae ] 8:35 pm: I have a hybrid romantic noir mystery that I have no idea what the heck to do with lol. Oh I do! I mainly write SF and Fantasy but the occasional contemp

[zan] 8:35 pm: I agree somewhere to submit my short stuff too oh yeah I’m 5′ tall so that would include me wouldn’t it.

[Marva] 8:35 pm: @deena we all wish the same thing.

[riversway] 8:35 pm: yes

[Frances2] 8:35 pm: @Deena we wish you could too! LOL

[barblucas] 8:35 pm: @jazzy I do.

[Deena] 8:35 pm: awesome, Rae.

[Deena] 8:35 pm: Anna, still with us?

[spot_writes] 8:35 pm: @Jazzy, um I work on more than one at a time, but I think most of mine are the same genre.

[Amber Stults] 8:35 pm: @jazzy I do.

[Rae ] 8:35 pm: Yeah it keeps me on my toes

[widdershins] 8:35 pm: @Jaz… only in the first draft stage… after that I need to focus on one

[zan] 8:36 pm: Yes I wrote 22 drabbles this month 10 chapters on my YA fantasy and two short pieces. Jazzy

[Deena] 8:36 pm: Zan, if you can stuff yourself in an email, I’m sure I’d accept you.

[Rae ] 8:36 pm: Jazzy, I’m currently doing that! Lol. I love it. It’s a little nutty but definitely fun

[Caras Galadhon] 8:36 pm: Wargh. Back again. Hi everyone!

[Rae ] 8:36 pm: Hey Caras!

[Deena] 8:37 pm: hello Caras. I’m trying to figure out what wargh sounds like. I see it said with a sort of dino head toss.

[Marva] 8:37 pm: In re the 2011 conference: How about something on how to choose a genre (or let it choose you).

[zan] 8:37 pm: The head toss would make it

[Caras Galadhon] 8:37 pm: Hee. That works for me! I always pictured it as a sort of waaaaaarrrr-guh sound.

[Anna Kashina] 8:37 pm: I am back now.

[Deena] 8:38 pm: Recapping, the con was awesome, next year will be 21 days, I’ll email everyone who participated and invite them to join a keeping-up-with everyone newsletter. We’ll be starting a writing group.

[spot_writes] 8:38 pm: The way I feel about this con ending is the way I used to feel about the end of a play run. Or summer camp. Lol.

[Deena] 8:38 pm: Yay, Anna!

[LynneB] 8:38 pm: @Marva, I like that idea!

[Deena] 8:38 pm: Oh yeah, spot, Summer camp…

[Rae ] 8:38 pm: Ooh! 21 days

[Deena] 8:38 pm: Marva, that’s a great idea!

[Anna Kashina] 8:38 pm: I do keep getting the lines I missed, I just can’t always reply.

[Jazzyartwriter2] 8:38 pm: A writing group. Great idea. I love it.

[spot_writes] 8:38 pm: I like that idea Marva.

[Deena] 8:38 pm: Oh, I was recapping anyway, Anna. I just wanted to be sure everyone was at the same place.

[Rae ] 8:39 pm: That’s going to be one awesome group

[kris M] 8:39 pm: Deena – even if only 21 — I’m telling my hubby it’s 31 anyway

[Anna Kashina] 8:39 pm: Deena, a writing group is a great idea.

[PeachesNCream] 8:39 pm: LOL @ Kris

[zan] 8:39 pm: I write sci-fi, Fantasy, Mystery, historical, childrens easy read, read to me and bilingual and YA so I don’t really want any other genres to pick me, Marva

[Marva] 8:39 pm: Brief description of writing group?

[spot_writes] 8:39 pm: I like the writing group as well. I got the MayWriMo digests and I almost never posted, but I liked reading them.

[Deena] 8:40 pm: In the feedback, recalling from memory, more basic writing sessions, more things like manuscript format and how to write a powerful synopsis, and the perfect query letter.

[Deena] 8:40 pm: Do you guys like the idea of more workshops? Where you could upload your work and have it critiqued? Like short story writing, and synopses and so on?

[Marva] 8:40 pm: @zan I’m just finishing a murder mystery which is new for me. I figure try out one of everything, like at a buffet, then go back to what tastes good.

[zan] 8:40 pm: Yes Deena YES

[widdershins] 8:40 pm: YEs…. more workshops

[spot_writes] 8:40 pm: @Deena and cover letters for short stories please. Those give me trouble.

[riversway] 8:40 pm: @Deena, yes!

[Deena] 8:40 pm: Awesome.

[barblucas] 8:40 pm: @Deena I love the idea of workshops!

[Deena] 8:40 pm: Okay spot.

[LynneB] 8:40 pm: I have been doing a little of that Marva.

[Rae ] 8:41 pm: That would be pretty cool!

[Amber Stults] 8:41 pm: I didn’t get to do any of the workshops but I like the idea of them.

[PeachesNCream] 8:41 pm: @ Deena yes

[Deena] 8:41 pm: and more authors from other countries?

[widdershins] 8:41 pm: combination of forum and chat

[spot_writes] 8:41 pm: Oh Marva I like that idea.

[Deena] 8:41 pm: Widder, really? So many of the forums I’ve seen are shutting down because of the spammers.

[Jazzyartwriter2] 8:41 pm: Some time ago I took a very good class in synopsis writing, but I still hate it and would rather write an entire book. I also need lessons in organixzing my time. I never seem to have enough time, especially for stuff like housework.

[widdershins] 8:41 pm: and other cultures

[Deena] 8:42 pm: We may have to shut down the DP forum. In the last week we’ve had 41 people sign up, most of them with v!ag4a in the name.

[kris M] 8:42 pm: Deena — pretty much all this + anything else you can think of.. but yeah cover letters, critiques, synopsis etc.

[widdershins] 8:42 pm: forums need to be moderated… and only open to registered users

[Deena] 8:42 pm: time organizing. cool.

[Deena] 8:42 pm: Other cultures.

[Deena] 8:42 pm: Widder, that would mean many more volunteers. You volunteering?

[kris M] 8:42 pm: volunteer for what? to moderate?

[PeachesNCream] 8:42 pm: I’ll volunteer Deena

[Deena] 8:42 pm: What about places to ask questions about science, culture, geography?

[widdershins] 8:42 pm: of course…. you already knew that anyway!

[spot_writes] 8:42 pm: @Deena those v!ag4a people aren’t just erotic writers?? Lol.

[Deena] 8:43 pm: Kris, yes, the message board if we have one.

[Deena] 8:43 pm: heh, spot

[Deena] 8:43 pm: Thanks, Peaches!

[Rae ] 8:43 pm: I wouldn’t mind helping myself

[zan] 8:43 pm: I will volunteer for a couple of things Deena

[spot_writes] 8:43 pm: I can volunteer too.

[Deena] 8:43 pm: Awesome. Everyone from this year turns into a volunteer for next year, and holy cow what a con it will be!

[Rae ] 8:43 pm: A time workshop would awesome btw. Very helpful.

[Deena] 8:43 pm: and no one will be tired out at the end.

[Rae ] 8:43 pm: Yeah!

[Deena] 8:43 pm: cool, Rae

[kris M] 8:43 pm: ditto deena — anythng for you — you rock!!!

[spot_writes] 8:44 pm: I agree about the time workshop.

[riversway] 8:44 pm: @jazzy, I always do housework in bits and pieces when i’m writing….house is never cleaner…I sort thru all the bits …when I reach that stop spot that i can’t seem to write anymore…than it clears while I’m doing the housework and I’m wrting again

[PeachesNCream] 8:44 pm: @ Rae….YES

[Jazzyartwriter2] 8:44 pm: I’ll volunteer too, but I don’t know for what.

[Anna Kashina] 8:44 pm: I will volunteer.

[Anna Kashina] 8:44 pm: For something.

[Deena] 8:44 pm: Anna, you’re wonderful, as always.

[Deena] 8:44 pm: Jazzy, we can put you to work, I’m sure.

[barblucas] 8:44 pm: Absolutely, and then you might be able to enjoy the party a bit more and not always have to play host, Deena.

[riversway] 8:44 pm: I’ll volunteer too Deena…I’m good at organizing.

[Anna Kashina] 8:44 pm: Thanks, Deena! But you are really the wonderful one.

[barblucas] 8:44 pm: I’m happy to help out as well.

[Deena] 8:44 pm: Barb… I’m not sure what I’d do if I weren’t passing canapes! But yeah, that would be awesome.

[spot_writes] 8:44 pm: I’ll bring cupcakes….oh wait…that’s only going to help me…

[Deena] 8:45 pm: river would widder smack me if I kissed you?

[kris M] 8:45 pm: we should have a workshop where Deena gets to ask us questions and we host..

[Jazzyartwriter2] 8:45 pm: My mind is organized, but the rest of me doesn’t always follow through.

[Anna Kashina] 8:45 pm: Spot, how about virtual cupcakes?…

[zan] 8:45 pm: I want cupcakes too Widder share now

[Deena] 8:45 pm: Ooh, Kris… hmmm…

[barblucas] 8:45 pm: Cupcakes…. Mmmmm.

[Rae ] 8:45 pm: That would be fun lol

[Jazzyartwriter2] 8:45 pm: Chocolate ones.

[zan] 8:45 pm: OOps spot not widder sorry

[spot_writes] 8:45 pm: haha. If I knew how to make virtual cupcakes, I so would

[LynneB] 8:46 pm: I am tasting the chocolate.

[widdershins] 8:46 pm: @Zan…. glad you qualified that one!…. nearly rushed to the oven to bake a few

[riversway] 8:46 pm: @ Deena it could be dangerous…trouble is she might smack me too

[Deena] 8:46 pm: Next year, better profiles for everyone who signs up.

[Amber Stults] 8:46 pm: I went to a wedding yesterday and left before they cut the cake. Now I want a cupcake!

[Deena] 8:46 pm: Oh… hmmm. would that be bad or good, River?

[Deena] 8:46 pm: I found this awesome cream cheese frosting for my son’s birthday cake in February.

[spot_writes] 8:46 pm: @Deena, profiles would be great. I like going and checking out the other peoples
websites and blogs.

[Deena] 8:46 pm: Now, every time I see cake or cupcake, I think of it. Oh. My. Goodness.

[spot_writes] 8:47 pm: I love cream cheese frosting!

[Deena] 8:47 pm: When they’re ready, Spot, I’ll make sure to let everyone know.

[widdershins] 8:47 pm: river makes an awesome creamcheese icing herself!

[kris M] 8:47 pm: ok note to Deena — next yr have workshop with recipe swapping!!!

[riversway] 8:47 pm: hmmm…depends on what you like Deena

[Deena] 8:47 pm: It’s on allrecipes.com, and I can’t find my password…it’s on the other computer, dang it.

[Anna Kashina] 8:47 pm: How come this discussion always turns to food?…

[Deena] 8:47 pm: heee! river, you’re going to get me into trouble.

[zan] 8:47 pm: I work in a deli right next to the bakery so all day every day I smell all that good stuff and its for the customers not me

[widdershins] 8:47 pm: recipes that can be made whilst writing

[Jazzyartwriter2] 8:47 pm: You guys are tampering with my diet. I’ve lost 30 pounds and am in danger of gaining them back again.

[Deena] 8:47 pm: Anna, um, we like to eat?

[spot_writes] 8:47 pm: My daughter made an orange cake w/cream cheese frosting the other night during scott’s panel and it tasted like a dreamsicle…

[Deena] 8:47 pm: Oh, that’s a good idea, widder!

[PeachesNCream] 8:47 pm: LOL Anna…they’re making me hungry

[riversway] 8:48 pm: widder is talking about the 15 min choc cake

[Deena] 8:48 pm: time savers of all sorts, widder–easy cooking, dusting while rewriting..

[Anna Kashina] 8:48 pm: Yep, looks like it! I am getting hungry too. Should we have a food session at the next Con?

[Marva] 8:48 pm: You guys are killing me! I’m non-sugar. Splenda stuff just doesn’t have that panache that white sugar does.

[Deena] 8:48 pm: We’ll definitely have to get some sort of organization expert in.

[kris M] 8:48 pm: widder — no recipes for hubby to make while I”M writing….

[spot_writes] 8:48 pm: I have some great crockpot recipes…

[Anna Kashina] 8:48 pm: How about garlic cupcakes? A signature recipe.

[widdershins] 8:48 pm: @Kris… yougot it gal!

[Deena] 8:49 pm: awesome, Spot. We definitely need a recipe thread.

[Jazzyartwriter2] 8:49 pm: Why not? There are several authors who provide recipes in their books, like the Cat Who books.

[LynneB] 8:49 pm: Crockpot cooking for writers, session for next year.

[Marva] 8:49 pm: @Anna Ewwww.

[Deena] 8:49 pm: Anna… um…. vampire deterrent?

[Deena] 8:49 pm: I like that idea…

[zan] 8:49 pm: My son is a diabetic and cooks with out sugar all the time some of it is really good Marva

[PeachesNCream] 8:49 pm: I should give you my brownie recipe Marva…I’ve done it with Splenda with good results

[Jazzyartwriter2] 8:49 pm: Vampire deterrent. Use a lot of garlic

[Deena] 8:49 pm: Should we do one where we make River take a camera into the kitchen with her and show us her cooking?

[Marva] 8:49 pm: Okay. Forum thread for recipes. Check.

[Jazzyartwriter2] 8:49 pm: I’ll go along with that. I want to see the pictures.

[kris M] 8:49 pm: videos of cooking…. like it

[Deena] 8:50 pm: yup, I like that idea; and maybe one for timesavers in general.

[spot_writes] 8:50 pm: Yes, I need timesavers

[Anna Kashina] 8:50 pm: I also have one for bacon-flavored ice cream

[Deena] 8:50 pm: It’s the bread. She keeps making bread in every session I’m in!

[Deena] 8:50 pm: wow, Anna… is it actually.. good?

[PeachesNCream] 8:50 pm: LOL Deena

[spot_writes] 8:50 pm: Ewwww….Anna…just ewww

[widdershins] 8:50 pm: River….. can do a whole session

[Marva] 8:51 pm: @zan NS can be tasty, but something about sugar just … ummm.

[PeachesNCream] 8:51 pm: I post recipes…with pictures…on my blog most Fridays

[Anna Kashina] 8:51 pm: Deena — it is if you like bacon. Personally I think it tastes horrible, but I thought the idea is neat.

[barblucas] 8:51 pm: @Anna That always sounds so nasty, but when I see it on the food shows, people seem to like it.

[zan] 8:51 pm: Anna my son the diabetic made beef cake and chicken noodle cupcakes the other day but they told him at work to quit bringing in weird stuff go figure.

[Deena] 8:51 pm: I think I like bacon a lot, but I don’t think that sounds like my kind of thing.

[Deena] 8:52 pm: So, how many of you are actually into the idea of a forum/message board?

[riversway] 8:52 pm: since I don’t eat read meat, doesn’t work for me

[Amber Stults] 8:52 pm: Bacon ice cream sounds delightful, Anna! Michael Symon, one of the iron chefs, makes a maple and bacon ice cream in his restaurants that is soo good!

[kris M] 8:52 pm: me

[Marva] 8:52 pm: Hand raised!

[Deena] 8:52 pm: Because the writing challenge group likes the idea, so we might just combine the two and start it now.

[PeachesNCream] 8:52 pm: me

[spot_writes] 8:52 pm: me as well!

[widdershins] 8:52 pm: Yep

[Rae ] 8:52 pm: Bacon Ice cream? Whut lol

[LynneB] 8:52 pm: I am in!

[Deena] 8:52 pm: Okay then.

[Rae ] 8:52 pm: Oh me! I’m def interested

[zan] 8:52 pm: Hand up

[Deena] 8:52 pm: cool, then we’ll do that.

[riversway] 8:52 pm: OK

[Jazzyartwriter2] 8:52 pm: I’m in too.

[Deena] 8:53 pm: I expect recipes from you cooking people!

[Amber Stults] 8:53 pm: What a nice way to make decisions.

[Deena] 8:53 pm: I cook, a lot actually. I get tired of my cooking.

[zan] 8:53 pm: That is my job I cook 6 days a week

[Anna Kashina] 8:53 pm: Deena, I like the idea of forum/message board! Admittedly I like it even more than bacon ice cream

[Deena] 8:53 pm: Me too, Zan.

[Jazzyartwriter2] 8:53 pm: My favorite recipe is pizza soup – and it really tastes like pizza, without all the calories.

[Deena] 8:53 pm: wow, Anna… I’m glad.

[Rae ] 8:53 pm: Lol Anna

[Deena] 8:53 pm: huh. That sounds interesting, Jazzy.

[spot_writes] 8:54 pm: Definitely. Except I make a lot of mine up. Now I’ll have to start measuring how much I actually use. Instead of just “until it looks right” lol.

[Marva] 8:54 pm: @jazzy post that recipe soon. Pizza soup!

[zan] 8:54 pm: Jazzy send me that one please

[Rae ] 8:54 pm: Meaty ice cream hehe

[PeachesNCream] 8:54 pm: Crock Pot recipe for you Deena http://sherrimeyer.blogspot.com/2010/05/fantastic-food-friday-chicken.html

[Deena] 8:54 pm: Spot, me too! My son is a good cook now, my eldest, but it took him a while of “BUT HOW MUCH DO YOU PUT IN!?

[Anna Kashina] 8:54 pm: Deena, are we going to have a transcript of this session? I think it is going straight to my recipe book.

[Jazzyartwriter2] 8:54 pm: I made it for a Christmas party, invited people from work. Only three came and I accidentally picked the wrong containers to serve it in. They melted. But everybody loved it.

[Deena] 8:54 pm: OOh, i needed a good chicken recipe.

[Deena] 8:54 pm: Anna, we could, sure.

[Rae ] 8:55 pm: Pizza soup sounds interesting though! I’m a pizza addict so I’m game

[spot_writes] 8:55 pm: @Deena, yes, my children get really frustrated with that.

[zan] 8:55 pm: What are you making with the chicken?

[LynneB] 8:55 pm: Well this has been a pleasure everyone. Looking forward to the upcoming communications with all of you on the forum/message board. Have a great summer of writing. I think I have to go now and find something to eat!!!!

[Deena] 8:55 pm: Lynne, thanks for coming. See you around!

[Jazzyartwriter2] 8:56 pm: Uh oh, we made her hungry.

[widdershins] 8:56 pm: @Deena…. catch chook… cook chook…. eat chook

[Deena] 8:56 pm: Zan, the link that peaches posted, Chicken Tetrazzini in a crockpot.

[Deena] 8:56 pm: hee, Widder!

zan] 8:57 pm: It kicked me out naughty computer no biscuit

[spot_writes] 8:57 pm: I love crock pot cooking, it frees up so much time. I just have to remember to get the meat out of the freezer the night before…

[widdershins] 8:57 pm: @Zan…. that’ll laarn it!

[Deena] 8:57 pm: maybe right click on it, Zan. Or I’ll email it to you.

[Anna Kashina] 8:57 pm: I just had one of my lapses — bon appetit, everyone!

[Deena] 8:58 pm: Okay, before anyone else escapes, is there any one last thing you want to say about the con?

[PeachesNCream] 8:58 pm: That Chicken Tetrazzini…I just use frozen chicked breast straight into the pot

[Deena] 8:58 pm: Anything you think would make it even more splendiferous next year?

[kris M] 8:58 pm: Deena – loved it!!!!

[Rae ] 8:58 pm: I do! Looking forward to next year!

[riversway] 8:58 pm: screenwriting panel, please Deena

[Anna Kashina] 8:58 pm: Deena, I think it has been great! Next year will be a sweep!

[Deena] 8:58 pm: me too, Rae.

[widdershins] 8:58 pm: Thank you to everyone… presenters and participants…. the world’s a little shinier now

[Deena] 8:58 pm: Oh, yes! We’ll have that River!

[spot_writes] 8:58 pm: I really loved it! I think next year will be even better!

[Marva] 8:58 pm: @Deena Something on non-paranormal genres.

[zan] 8:59 pm: Anyway I fry the chicken, rotisserie it, make potpie, chicken enchiladas with and without spinach and jalapeño, bacon, and stuff the breasts with feta and herbs.

[Jazzyartwriter2] 8:59 pm: This has been a lot of fun. I’ll put on my thinking cap and see what I can come up with.

[Marva] 8:59 pm: @zan you’re killing me!

[kris M] 8:59 pm: we’ll always have May 2010 Deena !!!!

[Deena] 8:59 pm: An indie horror film writer has said he’ll do a screen writing session for us next year!

[Rae ] 8:59 pm: Maybe a short fiction panel? Novellas and short stories

[spot_writes] 8:59 pm: yum Zan!

[widdershins] 8:59 pm: @Deena… greaat!

[kris M] 8:59 pm: yes screen writing… yes

[Deena] 8:59 pm: Sorry, my kids were talking to me. Driving me crazy. Can no longer type and talk to small people at same time.

[Rae ] 8:59 pm: Lol

[Marva] 9:00 pm: Bye! See you all in the forums, etc.

[spot_writes] 9:00 pm: haha Deena

[Deena] 9:00 pm: Rae, sure, we had one short fiction panel, but I think there were too many panelists. I think we’ll cut that no more than 3 or 4 per session next year.

[Rae ] 9:00 pm: Oh! I have to see if I got that transcript

[Jazzyartwriter2] 9:00 pm: I’ll be leaving now and looking forward to next year.

[Deena] 9:00 pm: Rae, is there something in particular about short fiction you want to do next year?

[zan] 9:01 pm: Deena I loved this and will most assuredly be back next year and I did volunteer Thank you THANK YOU THANK YOU

[Anna Kashina] 9:01 pm: Deena, I think sessions with fewer panelists may be a good idea.

[Deena] 9:01 pm: Thanks, Zan! You were great.

[kris M] 9:01 pm: night jim-bob, night grampa

[Deena] 9:01 pm: Anna, it was a little mad at times, wasn’t it?

[Deena] 9:01 pm: hee, Kris

[spot_writes] 9:01 pm: Indeed, there’s not enough thanks to give you Deena. Everyone has been great, panelists, moderators, and participants.

[Anna Kashina] 9:01 pm: Deena, yes I think with many panelists it turned a bit hectic.

[Rae ] 9:01 pm: Perhaps a way of writing it. It’s a different approach than writing a novel although the same ingredients are there. The plot, obstacles and focus are a bit different. It’d be great to talk about how it differs and how it’ll fit into the future of publishing (esp digital). If that’s not too much

[Anna Kashina] 9:02 pm: But yes, everyone has been great.

[Deena] 9:02 pm: Okay, that would be good, Rae.

[Rae ] 9:02 pm: Great!

[kris M] 9:02 pm: all hail Deena — till next time we forum/chat/write/email etc…

[zan] 9:02 pm: Once again it sucked my writing into a black hole. Any way Deena THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU and I will be back next year.

[Deena] 9:02 pm: I think so too, Anna. Wonderful group of presenters. Everyone was so enthusiastic.

[Deena] 9:02 pm: Okay, I think we should call it. It’s 9:02, and CoyoteCon 2010 is done.